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Jeff Docherty
Username: Jeff

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 23:37:   

G'day Shmuel,

May I ask: As most of the exercise is centered on the arms and hands in Qi Gong...

1)How is the Ying Qi of the primary meridians effected compared to the Wei Qi of the sinew channels.

2)What is the exact effect on the Qi in the limbs in relation to ones in/ex halation.

Regards Jeff
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Shmuel Halevi
Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 15:56:   

Hi Jeff. Doing physical exercise, whether jogging, Tai chi or judo, harmonizes Qi and blood circulation, regulates breathing and balances Ying and Wei. Performing Qigong exercise is superior to other forms of physical exercise because of the slow and harmonious respiration that is involved, as well as the application of the Yi and mental relaxation. Other forms of sport, usually competitive or demanding sports, tax the energy, put strain and exertion on the muscles and internal organs and on the nervous system.
Inhalation and exhalation in Taichi or Qigong, are usually in accord with the body/limbs movements. E.g., parry and punch exhalation, cross hands – inhalation, etc. By inhalation, one is preserving the Qi, concentrating it and keeping an on-guard stance. By exhalation, one lets go of the Qi and accelerates its flow through the limbs.
Performing the Taichi or Qigong in a slow and relaxed fashion, regulating your movements with your breathing, executing your movements with concentration and intent, all these harmonize Yin and Yang, Qi and blood, Wei and Ying in the whole body as a whole and at the level of the single cell.
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Jeff Docherty
Username: Jeff

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 23:24:   

Thank you Shmuel, that's kind.

If,as you say, with inhalation one is 'preserving, concentrating and keeping the Qi on-guard', may I ask if it is at all profitable to have the intention of drawing this Qi more deeply into the tissues and bone marrow in static forms of Qi Gong. What effect would such an exercise have?

Jeff
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Shmuel Halevi
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 08:51:   

There have been numerous practices and techniques evolving during the ages, that concern themselves with these issues. Intricate breathing techniques and meditation, that are aimed at concentrating and directing the Qi throughout various levels of the physique and mental realms. Even modern texts, such as those of Mantak Chiah (hope I don't misspell his name) – take for example Iron Shirt Qigong, teach this type of Qiogong which is aimed at manipulating the Qi through the deepest levels possible.
Thus Jeff, you definitely haven't "made-up" the idea… many generations of monks and warriors in the far east have dug deeply into this subject, at least from the far old days of Chang San-feng …
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Jeff Docherty
Username: Jeff

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 22:09:   

mmm...thank you.

Shmuel i've often wondered with regard to the meridians:

As Qi must reach to the v. extremities, every muscle, bone and so on to include each cell, do you regard the Jing Luo as having any sort of physical reality,in simple terms does a primary meridian delineate a more concentrated line of flow;

or, is their reality one of function, a set of processes within the mind-body, rather than one of structure.

or do they convey more of a metaphorical meaning.

Jeff
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Shmuel Halevi
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 08:42:   

Well.. well Jeff, the million dollar question
Ever since I began my interest in Chinese medicine, I recall this question being a dominant subject in myriad articles and researches, trying to prove the existence of the meridians as a physical entity, or the Qi as electrical or bio-magnetic current, or protein/electrical based information/communication system... you name it.
In my opinion then, the Jing-luo and the Qi are none of these. To my patients, some of whom show deeper interest in the process they are going through and ask this question, I simply point to the analogy of telephone/cell phone communication… The blood that flow in the blood vessels is analogous of the telephone + its infrastructure, while the Jing-luo and the Qi are analogous of the cell phone + infrastructure…
I have no doubt that Qi is a very factual entity, despite the fact that it can not be measured, seen or weighed. I think that the Jing-luo and the Qi are based on frequencies key. A frequency of energy that resonate throughout the universe and form the basis of the Macro-micro cosmos concept. The frequency of the green color is the basic power that form the vegetation and trees, the route of the liver/ gallbladder, a specific area/function in our brain and so on and on. This is why a pulse of the green kind of frequency that hits the Taichong point on the foot, will resonate in the liver, echo in a specific zone of the brain, and have a moving/growing effect on the whole resonance key of the body energy system. This is why Qi/frequency is more able (as well as faster) to reach every far cell in the extremities than blood flow.
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Jeff Docherty
Username: Jeff

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 00:56:   

Thanks for your thoughts.

I suppose ultimately the theory is proven by the consistent outcomes of TCM diagnosis and treatments.

Of course it might well be that the scientific community eventually comes up with ways of measuring such subtle phenomenon.
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Phil Macqueen
Username: Phil

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 19:15:   

I have watched Qi move up a meridian as I gently rotated a needle in Liver
3. I was able to tell the patient where it was and the rate of its ascent
up the leg. It went up the (usual) Liver channel and the into the back of
her abdomen around where I guess her uterus was. She could feel it...I
could see it.
I did this to ease back pain generated by a tight Psoas muscle which was
giving rise to pain in the foot. It fixed the pain.
She felt a warm /heavy sensation as it travelled slowly up her leg.
which was what I wanted

Another reason is I believ in the existence of meridians is when
manipulating Ht 7 I can get Qi to go to the arm pit and then if I keep going
(GENTLY!!) I can get it to go to the groin and down the Ki channel to the
sole of the foot.
Back to the theory books folks...what is the sixth division pairing? Ht and
???'s
Interesting eh
Phil Macqueen...Brisbane Australia (Practice for 25 yrs)

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