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Marji Lee Pearson
Username: Marj

Registered: 05-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 15:27:   

Hello. I have a 4 year old patient first time who has ezcema. Mom held him I did everything to make him comfortable, have a very thin needle and went to put it in and he was getting upset. It hurt. He is very sensitive. I then acupressured the points and used some essential oils I know to be helpful. Question what do I do? I wonder if they acupressure works enough or if I did it long enough? Should I try herbs instead? Please advise.
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Shmuel Halevi
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 16:34:   

Marji, there is a long thread about this topic here:
http://www.acumedico.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=30&post=27#POST27
and if you'll run a search command on the forum with children and acupuncture you'll probably find some more threads.
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Marji Lee Pearson
Username: Marj

Registered: 05-2007
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 00:14:   

yes I read it all before posting. It seemed needles were used and I can't use needles. I thought maybe there was another way. I am looking into pediatric formulas but wanted to do some hands on also.
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Shmuel Halevi
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 18:00:   

Marji, for eczema (usually atopic dermatitis in kids) it is either acupuncture or herbal medicine. Acupressure is usually not enough. If you wish to conduct acupuncture treatments, it needs to be several times a week and both parents are usually needed in order to hold the kid while you insert the needles. Do not be afraid from some crying, it is for the benefit of the child after all. Usually, after a few sessions, if the child understands that you are confident of what you are doing, and that his/her parents cooperate with you, they go along and accept the treatment. if you wish to apply herbs, you must have knowledge of herbal medicine. You may need to do herbal modifications now and then, and you should know what you are doing. Treating children is much more complicated than treating grown-ups...
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Jan Jedryka
Username: Jan

Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 06:03:   

OK,

What's causing the eczema? How long has it been there? Is there a family history? What's the diet like? Of course the best treatment modalities for kids is herbal/dietary. Look grown, mature, men whince when you call up Chi with needles. The areas to treat are kidneys and colon. Allergies to look for are milk and eggs and anything with bright colours.
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Jan Jedryka
Username: Jan

Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Friday, July 06, 2007 - 06:38:   

OK,

I've just emerged frrom searching my HHD on eczema and this is what I've found. The clearest and most insightful information I've found is this:
Sulphur (S)

Sulphur plays a very important role in the body, not in the form of
inorganic substance but in complex organic compounds. All of the sulphur
obtained from food is in organic combination, principally as a constituent
of proteins. If our regimen contains sufficient protein of the right kind,
sulphur will be automatically furnished in the right amounts. The average
proteins contain usually about sixteen per cent nitrogen and one per cent
sulphur. Among the most important sulphur compounds playing an essential
role in our metabolism, we have to mention glutathione and insulin. More
recently, vitamin B1 has been found to contain sulphur. Thus sulphur is
an essential element in different substances which are active in the
nutritional functions. Many foods containing sulphur also contain
phosphorus in largely disproportionate quantities. Sulphur is contained
in all the tissues of the organism and it is a constituent of the blood
haemoglobin.

The optimal daily sulphur requirement is included in the optimal
protein intake. A diet of the right variety with an adequate protein
intake assures an approximate daily sulphur intake of twenty to thirty
grains.
The chemical reaction of sulphur is acid forming.


Positive Biological Functions

Essential for the organism in formation of amino acids, cysteine,
methionine, etc., for the formation of the proteins in the
organism.
Has an antiseptic and cleansing effect on the digestive tract.
In case of high protein intake improves eczema and dermatitis, in the
form of thiosulphate.
Acts as an oxidizing agent on the blood.
As sulphate it has essential role in ion equilibrium of the tissues.
Activates bile secretion.
Has an important role in oxidation-reduction processes in the body.
Normalizes the heart action. It is contained in thiamin.
Favors the prevention of accumu1ation of toxic matters.

Sulphur Deficiency Symptoms

Restricted growth.
Poor growth of nails and hair.
Eczema.
Dermatitis.

Best Sources of Sulphur

The best sources of Sulphur in decreasing values in lOOO parts of water
free substance:

Foods

Kale 86.00
Watercress 53.90
Brussels sprouts 35.30
Cabbage 17.10
Oxalis (Sorrel) 13.30
Spinach 12.45
Cauliflower 11.86
Cabbage (Savoy) 10.41
Cabbage (Red) 9.58
Parsnip 8.00
Radish (small) 7.15
Okra (steamed) 7.10
Celery 6.50
Radish (large) 6.35
Beet root 6.15

As this implies eczema is a metabolic disease and should be treated as such. Definitely the slow sure way is the best way and fast spectacular ways are definitely out.

As one source so beautiffulty put it.
"It is a  common  mistake that PEOPLE  EAT  TOO  MANY ACID-FORMIG FOODS.
This is an underlying cause of  si much  arthritis rheumatism neuritis aches and  pains in the joints eczema skin troubles etc.
Now you can go off into esoterica with Fraxinella and Albizzia lebbek and Scutellaria baicalensis or you can look at the more Food oriented plants and get a feel as to where you should be going with this.


Aloe; Green Beans; Pineapple; Rosemary; Slippery Elm; Turmeric; Watercress; bearberry; elder;
horsetail; Walnut; Blue-flag, viola tricolor, vinca minor, juniper.
Amaranth; Birch; Burdock; Chamomile; Evening Primrose
Horseradish; Potato; Rhubarb
Sage; St. Johnswort; Sesame; Tapioca; Turmeric; Watercress; dandelion; celandine; calendula;
Topical answers should be balanced with keeping the patient comfortable, but at the same time suitably sick until the underlying metabolic issues are resolved which may take 3 years. LET ME SAY THIS IN ALL EARNESTNESS if you don't then the person will develop joint problems in later life because there is not enough collogen laid down in the joints to give strength and flexibility.

So look and learn.
Aloe; Green Beans; Pineapple; Rosemary; Slippery Elm; Turmeric; Watercress; bearberry; elder;
horsetail; Walnut; Blue-flag, viola tricolor, vinca minor, juniper.
Amaranth; Birch; Burdock; Chamomile; Evening Primrose
Horseradish; Potato; Rhubarb
Sage; St. Johnswort; Sesame; Tapioca; Turmeric; Watercress; dandelion; celandine; calendula;
Aloe; Green Beans; Pineapple; Rosemary; Slippery Elm; Turmeric; Watercress; bearberry; elder;
horsetail; Walnut; Blue-flag, viola tricolor, vinca minor, juniper Amaranth; Birch; Burdock; Chamomile; Evening Primrose; echinacea;
Horseradish; Potato; Rhubarb
Sage; St. Johnswort; Sesame; Tapioca; Turmeric; Watercress; dandelion; celandine; calendula;
Now having said all of that I hope it has been useful for you and I have not overstepped any boundaries here.

Best of luck.
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Marji Lee Pearson
Username: Marj

Registered: 05-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 00:54:   

wow. Thanks for the information. It has been very helpful.
Where I live we are certified herbalists and that being said it is very important always to have respect for the herbs and make sure one knows what you they doing. Luckily in my herbal studies learing modifications of formulas was an important aspect. I will go that route. Thanks again.

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