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Richard Trolough
Username: Ric
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:09: | |
Hi, can I help a patient suffering from a kidney stone that slid all the way into the urethra and got stuck there?
Age: 50, severe pain while urinating, slight afternoon fever, malaise, no evident obstruction of urine.
Can I help him either by acupuncture or anything else?
Thanks Ric. |
Shmuel Halevi
| | Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 18:22: | |
It is possible to help discharge the stone both by acupuncture and Chineese herbal therapy. Acupuncture should be carried out at least once a day. In case cof severe pain - twice a day. If there is evidence that the stone is stuck in the urethra, main points are:
B-23/ B-28/ Ren-1/ B-37/ B-40
B-28 by electro-acupuncture.
Beside Chinese herbs that can be used for this purpose, there is a well-known home remedy that may be used as well:
2 oz of olive oil + 2 oz of lemon juice, stir and drink in one gulp. Follow by a large glass of water.
Hope this helps.
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Jan Jedryka
Username: Jan
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 15:09: | |
The olive oil/lemon juice/water cure was used for gall-stones. I didn't know u could be used for kidney stones. The lemon juice will change the pH of the urine.
I've treated gall stones with acupuncture very spectacularly but the design of the ureter makes it a much more of a dangerous procedure to treat kidney stones.
From my experience acupuncture is very good at quietening spasm especially of smooth muscle such as found in the internal organs so getting the body to pass stones is within it's capability. It is also good at getting rid of inflammation, the other great cause of pain. I know you said urethra but I hope you didn't mean ureter.
My concern is that a blockage of the ureter acupuncture may have the inflammation and spasm controlled but the stone be too large to pass. Is this possible?
As a matter of caution, keep a close eye on the urine flow and the pH of the urine during treatment and be very diligent about the full treatment course. That way you will have the patient under observation because if you suceed in treating the symptoms and the Urinary system has a blockage you may then inherit a toxic shock condition. I was not trained in the orient, so my thinking is definitely on the coservative side, but it doesn't hurt to be more than cautious. I would be happy to be corrected on any of these points.
Best wishes, Jan. |
Shmuel Halevi
| | Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 20:54: | |
I understand that we are speaking about the urethra here and not ureter. For this, the prescription above was given. Urinary stones are very responsive to acupuncture, and many works done in the orient, as well as my own experience, demonstrate this. Most responsive cases, are those with the calculus located in the lower part of the ureter and distally. Electro-acupuncture is of special significance here. Calculus below dia. of 1 cm, can usually pass through relatively easily. Treatment by acupuncture usually diminishes the pain, inflammation, discomfort, fever, nausea and lassitude in very short time, even if the calculus has not yet been expelled.
As for lemon juice & olive oil, they are indeed used together both for urinary and gall stones. This mixture has definitely a downbearing energetical reaction, and is therefore also used for habitual constipation. I have once had a patient who drank one morning a full cup of olive oil alone, on an empty stomach, the day after he got a severe renal colic (of a stone he did not know existed in his system). Few days later, he discharged a 0.5 cm stone...  |
Jan Jedryka
Username: Jan
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 23:35: | |
Shumel,
Thank you. What you have said has been a real eye opener. There is another question I have. If this is the ureter then why have you chosen the majority of points on the back and not included more points on the front like Ren points and St-25 or 28?
I'm asking these questions because I am very interested to learn. I have come to love acupunctrue.
Jan. |
Shmuel Halevi
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 06:56: | |
Because this is the urethra Jan, not the ureter. BTW, even for the ureters, some Chinese doctors have demonstrated that choosing the Huato points from L1 and distally, will have better and faster effect than the abdominal points. I have not verified this myself though. |
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Kidney stone stuck in the urethre