|Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 02:08: |
I wonder if you have any advice including specific points, for the case of left arm swelling down to the hand.
|Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 17:20: |
Could you please specify the exact location of the swelling, e.g., along one of the meridians' route, medial, lateral, etc...
Any diagnosis? Lymphatic system, blood system, etc.?
|Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 01:16: |
The swelling is all around the arm and on the hand, most of the dorsum of the hand, but some also on the inside. Obviously this is a problem with the lymphatic system.The pressure leaves marks on the skin, thus, as far as I understand this is a deficient condition involving all arm channels.
|Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 13:42: |
In the contrary, this is an excess pattern in need of dispersion. Despite the fact that there is still missing plenty of information about your patient, I presume that this is most probably a local problem and not systemic. Points that can be of help are:
Li-4/ 11/ 15 - distal direction
P-6/ P-5 - proximal direction
All on the affected side by strong dispersion (if your patient is of a physical condition that allows a strong stimulation).
Sp-6/ Sp-9/ Ren-10 = dispersion, possibly warm needling on Ren-10.
Hope this works for you.
|Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 13:36: |
I love the idea of warm needling the Ren Meridian in such a case the points chosen in association with the distal Points that are being used.
Spleen Meridian in cases of Lymphatic congestion is mandatory.
You may want to construct a formula: SP-6, LI-4, (a well known and powerful combiation) combined with hot needle Ren-10 (spleen) and Ren-9 (water divide).
Consider also Yin Linking system.
Rule out Cardiac insufficiencies just as a precaution-you don't want to be caught out by atypicality.
Hope this helps your thinking.
|Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 13:55: |
Is such a condition an extremely Yin situation badly affecting Yang Meridians but not as badly the yin meridians because the ability of yin meridans to deal with yin codition?
|Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 02:26: |
Shmuel was right, this is an excess condition. I needled the LI and PC channels agsinst the flow of energy and there is an improvement, so far by 10%. The swelling is not so "tense" any more.
I have also used Sp-6/ Sp-9/ Ren-10, perpendicular needling, no stimulation. It could be worth trying thje warm needles as well.
I guess you are talking about dispersing all point.
Oddly, the upper hand seems to be deficient,leaving persistent marks on pressure,while the forearm and upper arm is in excess. Any tips?